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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: November 30th, 2010, 5:53 pm 
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Since then that's been abandoned and everyone just makes everything as loud as possible.

But yeah, JB's albums could use a proper remastering. The levels are too low and things could be cleaned up a bit, although nothing can save the horrendous sound of Riddles and Mango - those albums should just be destroyed.
That's a good point. More than just amplification needs to be attended to—shit, I can do that on Audicity. A real remaster will require the actual master tracks. I hope it's still in MCA's hands. Why should Mailboat have it over Jimmy or MCA? That seems silly. And whatever happened to Margaritaville Records?

To be specific. Listen to the second verse of "The Wino and I Know" where he sings: 'Cause I'm livin' on things that excite me; be that pastries, lobster or love. The vocal track is way too high that you actually hear a couple of past-peak static hits. Amplifying won't take care of this problem (it'll actually make it worse). This is a great example of why the actual masters need to be redone.


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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: December 4th, 2010, 5:25 pm 
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That distorted bit you're talking about is the signal to tape was distorted - it's on the multi-track master that way. Remastering the album won't make it sound any worse - just more clear!

The master tapes are who knows where and in whatever kind of shape. Margaritaville Records ended with the last record Island distributed - Beach House On The Moon as I recall. Now WHY it ended I've never read. Maybe there was some copyright problems between MCA and Island. Maybe Jimmy had had enough of it. Who knows. I like Mailboat better anyway.

I wish Mailboat would get his ABC/Dunhill/MCA/Island back catalogue and remaster and repackage the albums faithfully. No reason they couldn't other than contract issues with MCA I would imagine. Those CDs are terrible sounding! It would be nice to have either a second disc with extra tracks (Havana Daydreamin' is one album that could do that for sure) that no one has ever heard yet on some of the albums.

Or even just a compilation of previously unreleased tracks - and possibly include the box set previously unreleased tracks (Christmas In The Caribbean, Love And Luck, etc).


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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: February 19th, 2011, 5:49 pm 
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Not a word for all of 2010 and not a hint in site for 2011 of having any remasters done. What will it take?


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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: February 20th, 2011, 8:31 pm 
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Not a word for all of 2010 and not a hint in site for 2011 of having any remasters done. What will it take?


A way of letting Buffett know there's enough interest among his fanbase for a reissue campaign. I think Rhino would be the perfect label to handle it too. Parrot Monkey's Buffett Remasters site was an invaluable resource as far as having a place where you could direct fellow fans to check out all of the original artwork from the vinyl albums and the reasons why remastering his back catalog is long overdue but he allowed the domain name to expire. My last contact with him was around '09 and he said he hoped to revive it at some point. I would love to see the site back up but that's up to Dan (Parrot Monkey). He put a whole lot of work into so I hated to see it disappear from the innerwebs.

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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: February 20th, 2011, 10:45 pm 
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I enjoyed it too. Perhaps he can make it work with some other thing, as a link to some other site.

I dunno. With so many artists having catalogues remastered ya think Buffett would be one of them in some way.


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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: March 6th, 2011, 12:16 pm 
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Hello fellow Buffett fans (and Parrotheads!),

No, I’m not dead. I apologize for my long absence and anyone I may I have left wondering what happened to me or the site. No, I haven’t ever lost interest in Jimmy or the remaster campaign. Some things got in the way and I did indeed take on many other interests too along the way. This is not to say I have not ever become apathetic about remasters of Jimmy Buffett’s catalog from 1973- 1989 (or more!). Since I started the campaign and been “gone”, we’ve seen many remasters happen, most significantly, the Beatles catalog in 2009 (done extremely well!), but still no Buffett.

Regarding the web site, which had the domain name buffettremasters.com, this was hosted by someone else, along with the domain name purchase who did me a great favor at the time. The site was mostly a discography, heavily influenced by the Beatles based jpgr.co.uk. The site was mostly built from scans done by the webmaster of this site, with some added by myself, and are mostly available to this day right here in a discography section (done quite well, I might add). Although I think it’s great a site like this has all the material on it, I don’t see the point of having another one out there. I was also a little discouraged to see everything taken and used on Buffett News, where I developed a bad rep for this campaign. It was so long ago (although it doesn’t seem it), and there are now discography sites available that have all this information and images already, I just didn’t see the point of keeping that site around with just a one or two page statement on why Buffett remasters should happen.

This is not to say I’m “defeated” or don’t let my imagination sour on what Jimmy Buffett remasters could possibly sound and look like from time to time, I just don’t think a website exclusively for that purpose is going to do anything. This is not to say I would never revive it or it’s out of the question, there are endless possibilities and I’d be willing to take suggestions for what people may want to see or what they liked about the site.

Personally, I’m doing very well and have a great job now, in case anyone was interested. Also know I use the screen name “Parrot Monkey” for just about all my personal accounts online, which actually started (not hard to guess) with needing a name on a Jimmy Buffett site. It stuck.

Thank you.

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-Dan (Parrot Monkey)


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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: March 6th, 2011, 12:58 pm 
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Glad to see you back, Dan. I think the Buffett Remasters site served a great purpose because all the info they needed to know was right there. It's not quite the same when sending interested fans to the discography section of another site. Too bad that phjim fucked you like he did. I'm a firm believer in karma and in that regard it will come back to him someday.

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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: March 6th, 2011, 1:15 pm 
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Thank you Jahfin, for understanding and everything!

Perhaps I do need to get back to work on the site. Once I'm finished upgrading it (it does need both content and design updates, it was outdated in terms of both) I can host it all myself this time around.

Yes, I didn't really care for that guy. While he does have credit on there for buffettremasters, it's a bit weird to do that after you mysteriously delete someone's thread and just offer an "I don't owe you an explanation" type of response. It was awhile ago, but I still remember that, pointing fingers at all the moderators for removing a thread that didn't need to be removed, only to find out in a PM it was the admin, who seemed very egotistical. Unfortunately, when people do those kinds of things that affect me, rarely do I forget.

On a brighter note, I ordered a copy of Down To Earth yesterday, finally completing my Buffett vinyl collection.


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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: March 6th, 2011, 6:07 pm 
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How elitist of them.

I've found this site to have pretty good info and pictures as far as JB's discog goes. When I want to share something with someone I provide links to this site. Hell, just looking at margaritaville.com is an effort.

Anyway, there is this thread. Maybe there could be a Buffett Remasters deal on this site? Why not?


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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: May 9th, 2011, 9:20 pm 
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I just got QOTSA's deluxe reissue of Rated R.

They're not exactly a huge selling tons of records band. So certainly MCA could remaster and reissue JB's catalogue just fine.

It's just that they are the BP of the record business - they just don't care.


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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: August 27th, 2011, 4:35 pm 
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I sent an e-mail to UMG. Dunno if it'll get through to the right people but who knows.


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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: August 28th, 2011, 9:00 pm 
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HurricaneSeason wrote:
I sent an e-mail to UMG. Dunno if it'll get through to the right people but who knows.


You never know. When a bunch of fans of the band Guadalcanal Diary wanted to see their records released on CD they mounted a concerted (and very politely worded) letter writing campaign directed at their label, Elektra Records. This resulted in Rhino Handmade (a division of Rhino Records) releasing limited, deluxe editions of two of their four albums (which have since sold out). When Dan (Parrot Monkey) and myself suggested a similar grassroots movement (coupled with the launch of his now defunct BuffettRemasters site) to Buffett's online fan base at BuffettNews, we encountered a largely indifferent response, a bunch of naysayers full of negativity towards the project. For a group of folks that will buy anything with Buffett's name attached to it, that's not exactly the type of response either of us expected. That said, if those albums were ever to be re-released as deluxe editions you can just guess who would be among the very first in line to snatch them up. At this site, the response was much different, with Josh even willing to give this thread "sticky" status.

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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: September 8th, 2011, 4:04 pm 
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HurricaneSeason wrote:
I sent an e-mail to UMG. Dunno if it'll get through to the right people but who knows.


When Dan (Parrot Monkey) and myself suggested a similar grassroots movement (coupled with the launch of his now defunct BuffettRemasters site) to Buffett's online fan base at BuffettNews, we encountered a largely indifferent response, a bunch of naysayers full of negativity towards the project. For a group of folks that will buy anything with Buffett's name attached to it, that's not exactly the type of response either of us expected.


A lot of the people at that site are more into the social aspect of being a so called Parrothead and truly don't give a damn about the quality of JB's albums, of which the digital records sound terrible. In fact, they probably think the horrible CD issues, which are still the original batch from 1986 or whenever, sound fine. It wasn't until Fruitcakes that there was more of an understanding about how to master for CD vs vinyl since the formats for each kind of record are different head room wise. Whatever. A few people over there act like they run the town that the church wants to make a bigger church in and ruin everything.

UMG, who MCA is now owned by, has plenty of punch to do whatever they want.

So... nothing has happened. With the only exception being Meet Me In Margaritaville.

Jimmy's music is not exactly dynamic but brickwalling any of the albums might not be good - but at least we'd be able to hear them a little better. I would hope they wouldn't brickwall them. UMG remastered the Rolling Stones 1971-2995 catalog and ruined everything.

Yet when they released the singles box set of the same years, they had them remastered again - and not so loud.

So they are capable of understanding that there is a problem with the so called 'way it works' routine of mastering these days. And that's because, even though it's still moving more towards downloads than hard copies, some people (and that might change or already has with the youngins out there now that know nothing about singles and albums - in any form, etc) will have hard copies forever, and a lot of people want good sound. There's a lot of people out there.

I don't understand why those people at that site would be so negative about such a project other than the fact that they are negative egotistical blowhards that know nothing about the subject. Certainly if there is any other kind of project, well hell, they really seemed to take to those.

Yes. It's ironic that the very reason would be denounced like that. But that makes total sense of there at that site. I don't remember (and I have zero interest in finding out) what my thoughts were when I was there but I think I was all for it.

I would love it if the 1973-1989 catalogue was properly remastered. Any extra tracks they'd want to throw in to make something deluxe wouldn't hurt my feelings either. In some way, whether just a stand alone release of enough tracks weren't used for whatever album etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: September 8th, 2011, 4:28 pm 
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Huh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffett_Li ... rnal_links


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 Post subject: Re: Buffett Re-Masters
PostPosted: September 8th, 2011, 10:39 pm 
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That's nice whoever put that up

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